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			<title>RE: 3D Engram</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/3d-engram.html#comment-5023</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Jim, Excellent job on that analysis. One thing I'd like to add is a bit more on the "Introduction to Scientology Ethics" (ISE) book. As many people know, this was/is the primary "ethics handbook" that most Scientologists (and Scn Ethics Officers) used throughout the 1970s and later when referring to Scientology's Justice Codes, such as Suppressive Acts, for themselves and others. From 1969-1982, there were about a dozen printings and editions of the ISE book, and each included a list of "Suppressive Acts". In that list, it stated the following: "Continued adherence to a group pronounced a Suppressive Group by HCO [the ethics dept. in the CoS]" Note that there is no requirement for Scientologists to disconnect from INDIVIDUALS pronounced suppressive. From the Oct-1982 printing of ISE (and to this day) the same line reads: "Continued adherence to a PERSON OR GROUP pronounced a suppressive person or group by HCO". (em[censored]asis mine) In other words, the most widely used "ethics handbook" by Scientologists and Scientology organizations, began enforcing disconnection on an INDIVIDUAL TO INDIVIDUAL basis at the end of 1982. This of course coincides with the other disconnection enforcements/changes that Jim mentions above.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Margaret</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 12:59:41 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Thanks Jim !!!</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/3d-engram.html#comment-4597</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Thanks so much Jim !!! You really spent a great deal of time into this one. And confronted so much. I really agree that Disconnection is a vital tool in handling suppression. There are some cases where it IS applicable, and can save one's behind. But only if done right and at the right time. Immediate disconnection from an SP boss or criminal neighbourhood or location is an example. There are others. But LRH does recommend HANDLE in most cases. With lots of tech to apply. And only as a last resort to Disconnect. It really appears D.M. took the PTS tech and did a real slant on it. He thought that since he HAD to take over Scientology, he then had to put lots of heads on a pike. Label them squirrels, suppressives, criminals... And since he's the "Good Guy", the "New Savior in town" - then we all trust him. Right ? Then, make it illegal to still associate with them - by twisting the tech around to make it a rule against any association with these former members. After all these guys might talk, might reveal this new regime for what is really is. But if labelled "SP's" then they must be disconnected from. And not listened to. Right? Says so in the new "tech". (Note - not all declared persons were good little angels and some did need correction or ethics and justice. But many were good, but since not in agreement with the new regime's tactics, were labeled bad.) After all, since many individuals feel they need someone to tell them what to do, and LRH is not around anymore, then D.M's RTC will suffice. But not me. I still have my own mind, and can sort out which piece of tech applies to which sit. Thanks again Jim.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 13:44:03 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>jim logan says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/3d-engram.html#comment-1251</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Freedom Fighter, I don't know exactly who held what in WDC at that time. I was at the Flag Land Base, and any traffic I got from them was cryptically signed 'WDC A' or some other letter. These signatures later changed, not sure when as I was out on the road playing music, and when I got to the Int Base in the spring of 86, WDC now had specific titles. WDC Gold, WDC Reserves and such. On the Gang of Five write up, here on this site, is a better description of the CMOI level at the time of the early 80s and its, WDC that is, origination. WDC was and is a part of CMO Int and was manned then as now (well now pretty much it is unmanned and unmocked by one of its former members, WDC Sea Org, back then, David Miscavige)by CMOI staff. DM was not in WDC when this issue was written, he was by title, in ASI, and was in fact over the All Clear Unit. That unit was distinct from others and more or less autonomous. The precursor to the autonomy DM seems to favor. Some would call it, rightfully, the fascistic despotism of an 'only one' that he seems to favor. Even he describes himself as 'uniquely qualified' on his very own homage site.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>jim logan</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:22:03 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Freedom Fighter says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/3d-engram.html#comment-1238</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Jim, Who was on the WDC back in 1982?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Freedom Fighter</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:56:07 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Freedom Fighter says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/3d-engram.html#comment-1237</link>
			<description><![CDATA["The tech of PTS is there. I'm saing USE IT, as it is written by LRH. Then it works. IF it doesn't them I'm saying IT HASN'T BEEN DONE." Can I get an AMEN!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Freedom Fighter</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:33:26 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>jim logan says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/3d-engram.html#comment-1231</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Old Auditor, Yes, PR Series 19 Safe Point is applicable. The first step in handling suppression is A) Discover. Then B)handle or disconnect. Even before that comes some recognition that one IS indeed PTS. Without education in the area, that recognition is unlikely. Spotting that one IS PTS, then discovering to whom or what, that is, the RIGHT SP, are the first steps. Not disconnection. From the first steps done accurately, then one can begin to get to cause over the actual suppression. Merely 'disconnecting' with no real grasp or effective accomplishment of the first steps is what DM is himself running and has been for decades. The tech of PTS is there. I'm saying USE IT, as it is written by LRH. Then it works. IF it doesn't then I'm saying IT HASN'T BEEN DONE. If that's what you are saying, then yes, we are in agreement.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>jim logan</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:37:39 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Handling DM after regaining sanity</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/3d-engram.html#comment-1229</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Jim, I hope we are in accord that disconnection is a necessary first step in handling DM whether you are public or staff. DM controls the playing field inside the church of Scientology. No one at any level inside the C of S has shown that they can handle him. Those that have tried have succumbed and some have become total effect of DM. This particular subset of PTS behavior is concisely described as the Stockholm Syndrome which communicates well to a wider range of public than PTS Type One does. Handling of the current church scene requires one to find a safe point and begin to speak up. There is no safe point in the Church from to communicate about out-tech and off-policy actions. Right now, the only way to communicate to church terminals and to the public at large is to establish oneself in a secure position outside the church and communicate on all possible lines to those who can take action. DM controls the church. Fortunately, he does not control the Internet and there are many actions that can be taken that will expose his criminality without running afoul of DM's lawyers.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Old Auditor</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:40:36 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>jim logan says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/3d-engram.html#comment-1220</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Old Auditor, You've brought up an excellent example of how this tech 'handle or disconnect' and it's full description encapsulated in the essay I wrote, can be used. Relative to the suppression of DM's MESTOLOGY and CANTHAVIGEOLOGY. One can 'disconnect' to some degree, keeping in mind the data of the actual 16 April 82 HCOB and it's 10 Aug 73 HCOB counterpart. There is no way to relinquish 'handle' however (consider the Power formula for instance). It is after all, the Church of Scientology, underneath all that DM suppression. That 3D is an organism that is not just going to up and die. So, this is a case in point of application of the full materials. Including 'Educating the Potential Trouble Source' the FIRST step to handling the condition as per the latest tech developments. In order to successfully deal with the suppression emanating from DM's travesty, the exact application of the materials is needed. Including 'handle or disconnect'. Reading the above HCOBs one sees that one can't really 'disconnect' when one has out rudiments, ARCXs, problems (how about family in the Sea Org for example)and overts/wittholds relative to the source of suppression, DM's travesty and it's manifestations in the CofS staff and public dramatizing the SP's valence and forwarding the suppression. One can't really 'handle' with the same out rudiments. As to the 'Stockholm Syndrome'. I looked this up a while back and it seems to me this catch[censored]rase, even the 'diagnosis' is so cursory compared to the body of materials of Scn and the PTS/SP [censored]enomena for one, LX Lists and the [censored]enomena of valence for two and several others that immediately come to mind, that this is sort of using a Dinky toy to do the job of a D9 Caterpillar. It is an interesting 'disorder' for about 20 seconds. It has no basic source given and no tech to handle. No thankyou. I'll stick to Scientology.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>jim logan</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 11:48:06 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Let\'s cut to the chase...</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/3d-engram.html#comment-1219</link>
			<description><![CDATA[It has been demonstrated thoroughly that David Miscavige cannot be handled by those left within the church, so disconnection is the only route for staff and public to regain sanity. As it is, there are many who suffer from Stockholm syndrome* and will take years to regain self-determinism. *Upper management terminals have been so skillfully degraded that they are totally dependent on DM and have fallen into a debased worship of the man. Watch the next major event, if you can stomach it, and see the top execs, who have been locked in the "hole" for years, appear as willing spectators and speakers. That is the ultimate degradation, after years of abuse to be cleaned up and put on display at events to show that "all is well!" After the event they are put back in their RPF rags and locked up again. Disconnection from this madness is the only way to regain your sanity.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Old Auditor</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:03:37 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>addendum</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/3d-engram.html#comment-1218</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I've just recently been sent a 'mimeo' run off of the 10 Oct 96 version of HCOB 16 April 82, MORE ON PTS HANDLINGS which has a note at the top of the issue. It states: "(Reissued 10 October 1996 to correct transcription errors)". Apparently the 'evil stenogra[censored]ers' weren't isolated to the books. They've been at LRH dispatches as well. Thank you DM for saving us from evil transcriptionists as well as stenogra[censored]ers, typists, and all manner of clerical SPs.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>jim logan</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 00:13:02 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>oops</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/3d-engram.html#comment-1214</link>
			<description><![CDATA[FOS, Ooops, sorry I missed the tape titles there. The first is Conference with the Guardian, available on the internet at Mark Bunker's Guardian Office data site. He's got a pretty complete lay out of the docs seized by the FBI raids in 77. On one link, the Intelligence Officer Checksheet, there are various tapes, this is one of them. The second quote comes from About Rhodesia, that's on the BC. One other thing I do want to make clear on this long, long essay I've written (sorry it's so long but I wanted to get the data across) and that's the fact that 'handle or disconnect' as an LRH datum, was never cancelled. Disconnection as valid tool of sorting out a real PTS connection to an SP, (or as an inalienable right of every being to give or receive communication when they themselves desire it, or not) was and remains a valid tool. The materials need to be studied, that's exactly what LRH states in the Educating The Potential Trouble Source HCOB of 31 Dec 78. My main point in writing this essay was to help spot the confusion of the various sits going on at the time, the early 80s, and the introduction of an arbitrary to deal with them. That has become entrenched and is a fixed idea/fixed 'stable datum'. As an arbitrary is has aberrated the group. LRH's tech developments such as are described in the essay are what they are. Disconnect, if used incorrectly and arbitrarily never worked, it still doesn't. It DOES work, when applied sensibly and that's what LRH materials are, sense. Of course, as in DM's case, you declare so many falsely and then force disconnection, well, you end up with the suppression and bullsh** we see daily.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>jim logan</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:47:35 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Handle/ Disconnect</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/3d-engram.html#comment-1216</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I found your article very helpful in bringing context to DM's reign of terror and injustice. The off-policy is clear for anyone who knows policy, but wait, all those people have been declared. Thank you for your efforts to put in time, place, form and event for this group engram. I know that I feel a little less stupid.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Brad Hagemo</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:49:08 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>With much ARC</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/3d-engram.html#comment-1212</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Its almost like writing a success story after a major case action. And in fact such an experience in reading this article duly belongs in this echelon. Thank-you to my Auditor, Jim Logan, and more truthfully than ever my heart felt appreciation to LRH. It is crimes like the ones perpetrated above that create the masses between myself and Source that do not belong there. This is a crime to the very core of every thetan. Such an indictment, as your article is Jim, so thoroughly obnoses the situation we have today and knowing that actually brings me a warm glow - a glow I've identified as undelable knowledge, whole-hearted resposibility and immovable control. A way back feeling, with a pt viewpoint for future action. It is usually described as happiness. :-) While potentially overstepping my mark, I would like to declare: THE STATE OF EMERGENCY AS FALSELY PROCLAIMED IS HEREBY OVER AND ALL JUSTICE CODES ARE RETURNED TO FULL APPLICATION AS ORIGINATED BY LRH. LRH policy was developed on fundamental laws. Arbitraries were not his fancy lest they be funny. In any situation that is an emergency real, manufactured or both, justice is suspended. Today's world in all its economcially-duressed glory is devoid of true and lasting Justice and so serves to illustrate. So to the end of the injustice we see at the hands of criminals, I say, "End of Emergency. Let Justice begin. And may the Board of Investigations continue its most noble work!" Shalom, yhvh]]></description>
			<dc:creator>yhvh</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 08:01:14 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>RE: 3D Engram</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/3d-engram.html#comment-1211</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Hey JL, This is VERY awesome!!! I thank you for writing this. It's long overdue and now it's time to get this spread far and wide. Just curious. Where or how did you get this data - like where is the source reference or what? (Quotes below for this Q). Thanks! In 1966, reflecting on the actions carried out under these policies in two separate taped conferences LRH observed the following: “Now the Scientologist…is perfectly willing and is at this time by Ethics being over disciplined, so we are over disciplining the Scientologists and under disciplining society and we should reverse that – reverse that very definitely. If anything under discipline the Scientologist and over discipline the society. Now in that direction you’d still win but in the direction we are going we won’t. If you under discipline a society and over discipline Scientologists, why you’ve had it, as a Scientologist normally is very, very willing. We’ve got to upgrade the idea of what is a Supressive, as Suppressives really are nuts. They are really damaging, Suppressives. You only need a few heads on a pike. “ 18 July 66. “‘You should upgrade your idea of what an SP is. Man, meet one sometime! A real one! A real monster…. Well, in all the time we’ve been around here we only had one SP that I know of. One real SP that was on staff…. And I don’t know of another single SP that we’ve ever had on staff. Isn’t that interesting. You see all these SP orders and so on… Don’t throw it around carelessly, because this is an–a very exaggerated condition, SP.” 19 July 66.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>FOS</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 21:45:39 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>RE: 3D Engram</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/3d-engram.html#comment-1203</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Disconnect or be declared. This is a great FDSing tool. Thanks for taking the time to do such a thorough research into the subject and for helping us sift through the maze of alterations that have been entered in. This could prove to be quite valuable in handling others.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>thought provoking</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 18:14:55 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>jim logan says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/3d-engram.html#comment-1196</link>
			<description><![CDATA[RJ, On the interweb is a site, 'wiseoldgoat' where the policy on how revisions are SUPPOSED to be done, written by LRH, is gone over in detail. On some of them, as you point out, a sort of 'effort' is made to do some of what is supposed to occur. On this one 16 April 82, MORE ON PTS HANDLING, DM didn't even try. He just rewrote LRH's original dispatch from 10 Aug 73, altering the importance and sequence of PTS handling and left the original in the new Tech Vols. This is blatant. It's egregious. And he left the original lying around, sitting in his very own 'verified' Tech Vols released in 91. Man, this one kills me. HE REWROTE AN LRH DISPATCH THAT WAS AN HCOB. How do you do that? It's hard to think like an idiot sometimes, but thinking like this idiot will shift your whole [censored]ysical body into some grotesque that is akin to The Method for actors, where you fear you'll never get back to eyes front. OUCH.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>jim logan</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 11:49:10 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Cat Daddy says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/3d-engram.html#comment-1193</link>
			<description><![CDATA[The only thing that I can say that if you are prepared to do all this work and you get your church back somehow put DM up as an example of how not to act.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Cat Daddy</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 07:58:33 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Boyd H says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/3d-engram.html#comment-1191</link>
			<description><![CDATA["To this tech is ADDED the word disconnecting and it now reads: “One tries to find what it is and then persuades them into handling or disconnecting. That’s the tech”. The above alterations to an LRH authored technical issue, were done with no knowledge or any authority or approval by LRH as he had been dead for a minimum of 5 years (the issuance of the verified Tech Vols) or up to 10 years, according to the ‘reissued’ on 10 Oct 96 statement. Not only is this a fraud perpetrated on every public, Scientologist or not, and is ‘passing off’, a Federal Offence. It is an intentional alteration and squirreling perpetrated by David Miscavige as the final Issue Authority in the entire Scientology structure, and the head of RTC." Wow! That's a big discovery Jim. Just read the whole article, you have a convincing argument.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Boyd H</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 07:56:53 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Wow</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/3d-engram.html#comment-1179</link>
			<description><![CDATA[WOW, and again WOW Thank you Mr. Jim Logan for probably the first accurate Qual cycle I've had in over 30 years! My needle is floating, betcha can tell that from where you are without even the aid of a meter!! VWD, MOQ, VWD indeed!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>WomanSetFree</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 07:54:50 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Awesome Job, Jim!</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/3d-engram.html#comment-1192</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Jim,, this is an awesome job of research you did, on possibly the most important subject we need to get straight! Thank you!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Valkov</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 03:43:07 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>ProFSM says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/3d-engram.html#comment-1190</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Cliff notes please. : )]]></description>
			<dc:creator>ProFSM</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 01:52:28 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Ed says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/3d-engram.html#comment-1187</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Sounds like if auditors were to run people who were PTS on Problems, suppression of scientology would cease, and that would solve the problem of suppression on the church. Other problems would still need to be handled approiately. For example, this would not fix roof leaks or plumbing problems. Suppression of the subject Scientology would not necessarily be handled by auditing the staff of a particular org or mission. And if "Authors Trust B" is PTS then auditing Joe Blow might not help because that PTS event might have been caused by a different SP. But still, the idea shows more promise, on a theoretical level, than government raids and legal action. Maybe that is why Sea Org personnel don't get much auditing. Because face it, the only thing Miscavage and the lawyers want is money, and if church managment were not PTS, they would not be in such a good position to loot the church.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 21:25:17 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Li Po says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/3d-engram.html#comment-1176</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Bright, wonderful, luminous analysis of one of the most important arbitrary in the church. You did put your finger on the real facts and the very beginning of the incident. perfect autopsy of the Frankenstein monster! Thanks Jim]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Li Po</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 04:55:22 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>RE: 3D Engram</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/3d-engram.html#comment-1173</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Jimbo, This is why I never trusted the new Tech and OEC Vols. HCOBs and PLs when originally revised specifically gave the reason for the revision and they were always in script. Any deletions were indicated by elipses. More important the original was kept in mimeo so that one could compare the revised copy to the actual original. When the original Tech Volumes were issued they contained the original HCOB at the date of issue and the revised at the date when it was revised. For instance in the original issue of the Hi Lo TA list C/S series 53 there is an exact handling that can be done to date and locate the flat point of int according to session records that doesn't appear in later issues yet was never canceled that works extremely well when done correctly. Yet this handling doesn't appear in the newer Tech Vols. Not only that but there is one HCOB dealing with list correction on R2-10/12 based on an SH lecture that works well in correcting bad list that is also no longer in the newer volumes which is why I kept my original Tech Vols and HCOBs when I originally did the BC.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>RJ</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 23:15:07 -0600</pubDate>
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