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		<title>David St Lawrence, Grad V Auditor, OT VII</title>
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			<title>PTS~False Data~Hidden Standards</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/david-st-lawrence-grad-v-ot-vii.html#comment-2071</link>
			<description><![CDATA["It can occur that a person working up through the lower conditions can get hung up at Doubt and not be able to complete the formula. In such instances, a PTS condition or false data may be found to exist... When a person is faced with suppression, whether the actual suppression exists in present time or is a past suppression restimulated in present time, he is facing a counter-postulate. A problem is a postulate--counter-postulate resulting in indecision. The first manifestation of and the first consequence of a problem is indecision. Therefore a PTS condition can hang up one at Doubt." -- LRH from the book Scientology Ethics I actually could re-do Grade I solely on my time spent in the CofS! You are spot on here and I thank you for coming out and sending your free theta into the universe for me to grab hold of! Realizing so many counter-postulates that were stuck here, I can move to ACTION and not be stuck anymore. Thank you again.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 13:01:31 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>My observations are NOT an assignment of a conditi</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/david-st-lawrence-grad-v-ot-vii.html#comment-1397</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I said, "All of the people who are afraid to speak up are PTS and are unable to handle or disconnect." Some readers took this to mean I was saying they are PTS because they have not gone public. There are many who no pay attention to the church and anyone in it. If you are being careful and have to watch what you say about the church or about David Miscavige, then your association with the church is putting you in a tone level that approximates fear. That is not a good thing. If you have to hide your relationships with those who have spoken out, you are being forced to have withholds from those in the church or those you work with, and that is not a pro-survival situation. Regardless of all of the hoopla that the church assigns to being PTS (while they make you PTS), PTSness is basically a technical condition of being connected to something or someone that puts you in fear. It's not an all or nothing situation, if you are being put in fear because of your connection with the church, you are the effect of that connection, even if you do not acknowledge it. Ask yourself these questions, "What happens if I ask questions about Heber Jentszch or about the new definition of FN?" "What happens if I mention what I have read on this website?" Do you get shown references or are you routed to ethics and get sec checked? If you are still unable to determine whether you are PTS or not, consider what happens when you wish to take time away from courses or auditing to put your other dynamics in order. If you are free to come and go as you please, you are definitely not PTS. If you find that you are indeed PTS, it is not a badge of shame as the church has made it to be. It is merely a non-optimum condition that you can do something about. Read my website possiblyhelpfuladvice.com for more information you might want to consider.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>David St Lawrence</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 02:13:58 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Leavingnotgone says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/david-st-lawrence-grad-v-ot-vii.html#comment-1374</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I am in the same place as RJ, and yet feeling very close to just coming out with it. I drifted quietly away; still in comm with my Scientologist friends in and out of the church. I get flack from those in that are aware of my connectons with those that are out, because "they are all SPs or Squirrels." And the ones that are out are perfectly content to grant beingness and there is no pressure or even encouragement to get official. Why how novel..they just leave it to me to decide when ad how. And the ones in the church continue to utter the "cult speak" about the "entheta". David, well done on getting out and going public.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Leavingnotgone</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:42:19 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>RJ says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/david-st-lawrence-grad-v-ot-vii.html#comment-1347</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Well David, First I'd like to say bravo for coming out of the shadows! However, let me just say that for me the condition of doubt is a wrong condition. Since I never had any doubts about the workability of Scientology! As far as I'm concerned it is the organization that is below doubt. Actually in treason or lower and has become in fact a suppressive group. So I simply disconnected. However, I have chosen not to announce this fact publicly because I do not want to create unnecessary antagonism for the time being.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>RJ</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:40:42 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>This was</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/david-st-lawrence-grad-v-ot-vii.html#comment-1345</link>
			<description><![CDATA[good reading! My points exactly - those who remain inside the church are making it easier for Miscavige. It's time to disconnect and shift attention towards the fourth dynamic.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Stefan Tunedal</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:26:29 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Sharon says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Bravo David!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Sharon</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:30:47 -0600</pubDate>
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