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		<title>Why Church Members Keep Lying</title>
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			<title>Patricia says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-7198</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Wow that was unusual. I just wrote an extremely long comment but after I clicked submit my comment didn't appear. Grrrr... well I'm not writing all that over again. Anyways, just wanted to say great blog!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2014 23:36:01 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>RE: Why Church Members Keep Lying</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-4962</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I've had a child witch an ex scientoligist, he got kiked out of it when he was a teen... He was violent with me, all the time. Had to ask my parent's help to get him out of my house...He wouldn't leave. His mother and sister are still working full time for this crappy SECT, let's call it as it is... They get paid 50$ a week. He can talk to his mom once a week, on a strict scedule. if he missed the call, he couln't talk to her for an other week... My biggest fear now is to see my son fall in their hands... She can see him once a year, she has to travel on her own (cancer patient!) and never has enough money to see her 2 kids for Christmass,... No presents either... Such a sad life if you ask me... She's about to die and she can't see or talk to her kids when she wants to. She has to beg her kids for money each time she wants to see them. I just can't understand how they got into this in the first place... Sounds soooo horrible from the outside... Even worst: even if my ex got kiked out, he still defends the "church" whenever I used to question his mother/sister's lifestyles.. I'm glad to see exs speak out, so my son will eventually have acces to this information, in order to make informed decisions. Thanks Back to life! We need more people like you to be able to help more people like them! Like my son!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>V</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:14:30 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>RE: Why Church Members Keep Lying</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-3563</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I´ve read on the internet about these abusethings for some years. I have been married to a man who is still in Scientology in Sweden and I have tried to talk to my ex-husband about it to figure out if he knows but I think he doesn´t.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Gothicat</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2010 23:04:02 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>If the Feds</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-3070</link>
			<description><![CDATA[If the Feds can raid polygamists based on the spurious testimony of one woman, and later found Not Guilty in a court of law, why can't the Feds raid Int? It seems there is no shortage of victims who can swear to these crimes. The fix is in somewhere. My advice is for the survivors in California to approach Senators Feinstein and Boxer in DC or Cal and picket if necessary. Anonymous are you listening?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Russell Welday</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 17:52:59 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Sukbi Hong says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-2882</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I fear the only way to do this is to dismantle it as it stands now and continue to spread Hubbards ideologies on historical significance and let him join people throughout history that changed the way he view ourselves and reality.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Sukbi Hong</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 09:29:25 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Sukbi Hong says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-2881</link>
			<description><![CDATA[This article is very enlightening. Some one should write news stations that have documented the past miniscule church activities as framework for this story and the story of the protesters which is not properly represented in print or on television.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Sukbi Hong</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 03:19:13 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Contact Justice department</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-2733</link>
			<description><![CDATA[The time has come to coordinate our activities and find one spot in the Justice Department to which all of this information can be sent. A suggestion would be to send a copy to your local Congressman and Senator along with a copy to the Faith Based program at the White House. A little homework can put together a list of the addresses.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Let\s Act</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 09:30:18 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Thanks Back to Life</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-2422</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Back to Life, thank you for speaking out. There is now a new field we are called to play in like real players do. Not just sit back and watch. We have international matters and decent people around that really need our know how and help.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Theo Sismanides</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 23:43:20 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>theoracle says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-2408</link>
			<description><![CDATA[It infuriated me too.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>theoracle</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 11:18:37 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>theoracle says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-2398</link>
			<description><![CDATA[That's it. I've heard enough and seen enough. I am making a David Miscavige Voo Doo Doll this week end.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>theoracle</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 21:22:17 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Sarge got it right</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-2002</link>
			<description><![CDATA[BTL, the way Sarge responded to your post expresses for me just how significant your account is. You combine an eye witness recollection with wise insight into what was happening. The two together are powerful indeed and will help many to understand the forces at work holding this evil together. Your post left me feeling both sad and impatient for action to stop the abuses. One of the sentences that hit me strongly was the one in which you said you had been writing down your evidence of abuse for 10 years. That a person could be trapped for so long horrifies me. You also write about the pressure not even to THINK, lest your thoughts be found out. This is an area that hasn't been aired in the media as yet, but it's an important one. I will be educating Australian parliamentarians about the California statute prohibiting the use of lie detectors in the workplace. I think the emeter should be banned from use in "sec checks" on employees. Thank you, BTL. I hope to read or see your account in the media before too long. Much love to you.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Herb</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 21:37:22 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Honesty</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-2000</link>
			<description><![CDATA[There is something of a dam burst occuring at this moment. The kind of inhamity and madness can only go on for so long before it collapses under the weight of its own evil. We who have lied to, fooled, incarcerated, beaten and demeaned are being heard. Now the law needs to move in. Respect to you BTL, and respect Jeff, Amy, Marty and of course, Tommy Davis (without whose wonderful support, Mcsavage would have a very hard time trying to appear credible).]]></description>
			<dc:creator>John Duignan</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 17:34:09 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>BTL -- THANK YOU!</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-1988</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Wow, BTL, thank you so much for articulating what I have not been able to articulate since leaving the SO. I have to say, that had I not been kicked to the curb by DM and left behind at Flag in late 2002 after spending so many years on the Int Base, I don't know if I'd have come to my senses as rapidly as I did. At Flag, I had the opportunity to see life outside the SO, and I was one of the few on the FLB who had some limited internet access due to my job. For a while at Flag, things were good. In fact, they were GREAT compared to what I had been used to. But then, when the insanity started filtering down to the FSO (right around the time of the Congresses release), I could see the writing on the wall. I thought about leaving almost daily after that, but I stayed. It wasn't until I was working with Diana Hubbard who had come down to Flag for the Basics release, and she stated more than once that she was going to work to get me back on the Int Base, that it hit me: RUN!! That's just what I did, a few short weeks later. And I've never looked back. Again, thank you SO much for putting into words what I could not. I'm sure I know you, and there's no doubt in my mind what a great person you are.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Scarlet Pumpernickel</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 08:45:18 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Ex-Protester says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-1977</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I used to have a lot of "charge" on David Miscavige, but now now just feel impatient for the justice action to get started. There is a real chance that the first lawsuit will win a million or more, and there could be hundreds more. David Miscavige has become a public liability to the CO$, Still, I have to say, Hey, Davie. Has a withhold been missed?"]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ex-Protester</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2010 12:46:37 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Thanks Back to Life</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-1976</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Thanks Back to Life. Would you be willing to talk privately to a scholar who follows this site? I try to connect people who can describe the violence and atmos[censored]ere, and you have done a good job. You can talk off the record. The more senior articulate ex leaders who corroborate the whole history of Int Base abuse, the better for the history books, and the more information to allow the outside world to come to some conclusion about how to stop this self abuse going on at the Int Base. I've had outside "experts" say that this won't stop. That the abusers, namely DM, cannot stop himself. And per LRH's "Individuation" tape, NO other Int Base staffers are sitting DM down in session and clearing his transgressions, which is the solution LRH said HAS to be done, that the people below the leader have to grab the leader and sit him down in session. And it becomes harder and harder, and now it seems impossible for anyone at any echelon of Scientology, to sit DM down and run his transgressions. Which is why, for the last 5 years, I have supported and tried to cheerlead that senior 'big cheeze' ex Int Base staffers, find their voices and speak up publicly, write books, and somehow offer some advice on what to do with these abuses at the top of the movement. Thanks. Could you please email me? Best, Chuck Beatty chuckbeatty77@aol.com]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Chuck Beatty</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2010 12:45:46 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Misha says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-1967</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi BTL, Many thanks for your article and very happy to hear that you are now doing great. I don't know your identity behind the pal name but I am sure we've met many times just because of being on the same Base for many years. I am also doing great with no insanity and suppression and that is all very cool. Now, in terms of Scientology and everything it can bring to the world and huge numbers of individual thetans in it, what do you think needs to be done to get it back on the rails and make it a true asset to humanity?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Misha</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2010 11:51:19 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Documentary</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-1970</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I guess this story is just unfolding, but I hope if it ever gets told in a documentary it will be done by those who really know what all of this is about. So, I think it's a wonderful idea. I am really,really worried about these people now. It is so true, when you are inside, your viewpoint is completely different. It's okay to be tired and soldier on when you know the job is getting done but I get the suspicion that DM has convinced them the planet is going to blow at any second. That's what Dean Stokes told his staff and since none of us had any auditing and training and he was the big flag OT we believed him. So no matter how awful it was on staff the real world seemed more hostile. There was only one choice, stay on staff and push to the end. It was terribly sad and defeatist. He also told us that there were people out to kill his body and inferred that they were with flag which was really confusing. What in the world has been going on here? Back to Life, thank-you for writing this up. There are many of us that completely understand what's going on here and what you went through, so that's good for everyone. And you certainly have answered some important questions for those who would have a hard time grasping it.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Victoria</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2010 10:33:16 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Many thanks for speaking out</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-1964</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Dear, Whoever you are, thanks for telling your experience. My hat is off to you!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Notsaware</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2010 10:21:59 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Wow</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-1963</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Interesting article, while much of it has been documented before, it gave some new insight of the complete madness. I can understand her point that many of these people are in the 60's and really have no choice but to stay. They have probably established an immune system, after so many years. I had a similar experience(s) in the SO, though not as bad. Luckily I got out in my late 30's and was able to salvage my life.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Barney Rubble</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2010 08:17:32 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Ignazio Tidu says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-1969</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Thanks for sharing your experience. My hat is off to you for it. If there is any way I can help you please let me know.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ignazio Tidu</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2010 06:11:55 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Good Overview</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-1961</link>
			<description><![CDATA[The title of the article is a bit of a misnomer but this is a very good summary for the newly informed and a fine addition to the rapidly expanding number of texts revelatory of the COS' crimes. Thank you.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>La Mano Gaucha</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2010 03:00:54 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Paolo Ruggeri  says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-1960</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Dear BTL, Thank you for your write up. After reading what you wrote about children, I feel disgust for having supported for many years such a suppressive group. OMG. Paolo]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Paolo Ruggeri </dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2010 02:05:59 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>TRUTH says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-1958</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Dear BTL, Thank you so much for sharing your truth. I am truly honored to have you as part of this theta team. I just posted this link on CNN.com(about Scientology blog)as a comment for Anderson Cooper to read. I also e-mailed it to several Scientologists, here in USA and other countries. It is very important for people to have first hand data so they don't buy into DM's PR line. BTL, I love your writing, please keep it up! I wish you all the best and love you very much!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>TRUTH</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2010 01:18:38 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>LO says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-1951</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Dear BTL, Your writing had a big effect on me. I shed quite some tears. I realised how big the theta has been that is enturbulated by the constant losses on the 3rd and 4rd dyn. I one takes the last 30 years and calculates all the arcXs. loses, failed purposes, lost hopes, bpcs....There you'll find all the missing theta that is needed for Scientology to expand. One has to find a formula to disenturbulate it. Thanks LO]]></description>
			<dc:creator>LO</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 18:34:21 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Comments on my article</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-1957</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Thank you to everyone who responded so nicely to my article! I am really glad that it has helped clarify what's going on. That was really my intention. I no longer feel victimized or sad about what happened, but I don't want others to fall in the same trap. I think the story at that Base is a microcosm of how so many religions fail and mess people up. It's not only the "Stockholm syndrome" but also the "mea-culpa" syndrome (a term I just made up) where a person naturally looks inside himself when something bad happens to him. It's the sign of a social personality, I guess. But if the abusive person keeps pushing that "you are forcing me to do this to you", he/she can become convinced that it's the case. There's a sea of things wrong with any being so one can easily introvert for years. It takes some doing to pull out of that view and see the truth. As a last note, I am currently very happy in life and hardly think back. Being part of something so absurd makes one appreciate the joy of living tremendously. And when the suppression comes off, it is like all ones emotions and abilities suddenly blossom. More articles to come. BTL PS: I think I forgot to thank Marty, Jeff,Tom, Steve & Amy for speaking out, just because they care, with no financial gain and despite threats and other criminal actions by the Church trying to stop them. They really are true friends.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>BTL</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 18:25:19 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Nomnom says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-1955</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Thank you so much for the write up BTL. Got to chew on it for a while... I must do more.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Nomnom</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 17:02:54 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Karen says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-1949</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Thank you for speaking out. Not only have you reconfirmed what I have been made aware of over the past six months, you have given me an understanding of what happened to Scientology. On more than one occassion, I would look around my org (pre and post Ideal Org status)which per the stats was considered to be one of the more successful orgs and wonder about the true status of Scientology. How could Scientology be as big as it was being tauted at the events? It was depressing and introverting to realize that we were one of the better ones. I now see that Scientology was never allowed to truly achieve any expansion. The top execs were so busy studying DM or preparing for meetings with DM, that there was no time to apply LRH. What I was experiencing was the lack of any real admin technology at the top of the org board. The "something wrong" was actually an omitted and therefore harder to spot. All of the outlist of what I was doing wrong was all for naught. Thanks for clearing that up and I hope to be hearing more from you in the future.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 16:00:41 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Story</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-1939</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Thanks for sharing your experiences BTL, I'm sure I do know you having been at the base for years as well. I had a lower pain threshold and so left earlier, before the scene got worse and worse, as I had realized that DM's operating basis is just creating needless stress and problems in life for all under him in order to control and keep in power. Once this was pretty much achieved then it was to test the boundaries of how much he could get away with, IMHO. It does take some time to decompress from all this- you have confirmed and added many details to other old friends accounts which does blow off charge having more different views of those times - Thank you for that. The diary incident is funny - I hope they didn't find it and there's some Mystery to it still. Craig, the rise to Power occurred earlier and the creation of "Chairman of the Board" RTC post is not as LRH had envisioned it. Prior to that DM was mostly in LA and running ASI in a similar manner and usurping the power LRH had given to the "Loyal Officers".]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Sinar</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 13:03:07 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Sarge says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-1948</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I'm sorry. Anger is an ineffective bullet. Truth is an effective bullet. This writeup needs to go far and wide. Its not only well written but full of the truth. Please someone with the know how, disseminate!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Sarge</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 09:50:14 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>ctodd says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-1947</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Back to Life, What a sad, powerful history you relate. I'm in awe of you, as well as the others who have been able to leave what they had worked for and start over. I became aware of the tech from Independent sources, so I have only second and third hand info of what it's like in any of the orgs. The tech is amazingly useful and it is a shame what DM has done with the Church. I hope others can find inspiration and the courage to move on.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>ctodd</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 09:29:59 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Dear Back to Life,</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-1946</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I ready your post early today, before any of the comments were posted. I intended to comment, but I couldn't. By the time I go to the treatment of the children, I had my head in my hands, crying. The word "insanity" was all I thought for a minute. How does one survive years in an environment like that? What a victory that you got out of there with enough fight left in you to speak up about it. You certainly have my respect and admiration. Welcome to the discussion. I hope we will hear more from you. lunamoth]]></description>
			<dc:creator>lunamoth</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 09:29:19 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Thank You...</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-1945</link>
			<description><![CDATA[... for sharing this. It is perhaps the most lucid and clear summary of all, and I thank you sincerely for writing it up. I have forwarded it on to Sweeney for his consideration in view of the upcoming Panorama show, as the one thing missing I feel from AC 360 this week was an examination of the underlying reasons for why nobody could come forward immediately after a beating, or go to the police etc. You have explained this superbly so that even a simple journalist could understand it! Anyway, good luck and warm wishes to you; did you escape with the diary or was it found?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 08:53:18 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Thank you for speaking out</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-1944</link>
			<description><![CDATA[BACK TO LIFE - Thank you so much for speaking out. DM's "empire" is going to collapse as he can't keep the truth from coming out. I didn't know you were also there when he hit Ray Mithoff and gave him cash to "compensate" for the pain inflicted! I thought I was the only one on the outside who witnessed that, besides his brother who was also there. That one had particular impact on me as it was FIRST act of [censored]ysical violence dished out by DM that I witnessed -- though, unfortunately, it was not the last. You were always an inspiration to me because, no matter what position you held from the very top down, you were just yourself and a wonderful "self" at that! Wishing you the best, Amy]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Amy Scobee</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 08:43:02 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Jack Airey says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-1942</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Back to Life; I hope your diary is in a safe place. I like Sarge could not read your post without pausing. The evil of this little creep DM knows no bounds. The more I read about this lunatic the more I'm convinced if he is allowed 1 or 2 more years as COB the Church of Scientology will never recover. Thank you so much for your story. It needs to be read by many. Your diary could make on hell of a story told on video documentary style. I produce documentaries. If your interested in talking Steve Hall has my email address. The very best to you in the future.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Jack Airey</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 08:41:37 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Freedom Fighter says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-1941</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I can't begin to tell you the emotions this conjures up in me -- being a Scientologist and ex-military. Elie Wiesel wrote in his book Night: "For the survivor who chooses to testify, it is clear: his duty is to bear witness for the dead and the living. He has no right to deprive future generations of a past that belongs to our collective memory. To forget would be not only dangerous but offensive; to forget the dead would be akin to killing them a second time. The witness has forced himself to testify. For the youth of today, for the children who will be born tomorrow. He does not want his past to become their future." Back to Life, thank you for telling your story. We owe it to ourselves, to mankind, and to LRH to put a stop to this madness -- no matter what it takes and no matter what it costs.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Freedom Fighter</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 08:41:02 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>friend of ron says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-1940</link>
			<description><![CDATA[This goes beyond anything that AC 360 covered. Your first hand knowledge is incredible and so very valuable. Used correctly this truly can change conditions for the better again. I'd love to have an attorney friend look at all this under a confidentiality agreement to see what legal actions can be taken based on this data. Please email me and let me know if I can help you in any way.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>friend of ron</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 08:40:12 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Sarge says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-1938</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Back to Life, Thank You, and Bless You. This took me a while to read. I had to keep going for a walk. Marty told me a year ago that 'Sarge you wouldn't know the place (Int).' (another walk). The emotion is intense. When you got to the section about the Children, I had to throw my glasses down in anger and leave for a while. My god, this is what LRH's Scientology has become. Bless you for speaking out and know you are not alone. MLV, Sarge]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Sarge</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 06:35:23 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Natalie says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-1937</link>
			<description><![CDATA[This is so sad, it needs to be known and exposed, but sad nonetheless. Miscavige's church has indeed created uncaring people. How a father or mother can turn their back on their child is beyond me. My father struggled with drug addiction his entire life. He didn't wear his hat as my father, but he never disconnected from me, cutting all communication. That Guillaume, ED INT, a senior Scientology executive could turn his back on his kids is appalling. More so that an organization can turn loving human beings into cold automatons who will cut you out of their lives like a cancer as soon as you are no longer supporting "command intention". Love in its different forms is a powerful thing. Any group such as DM's church, that would force people to turn their backs on the ones they love is a group on its way out. Disconnection as it is being practiced within the church works only to destroy families and relationships with loved ones. It is done out of fear by a group afraid of being found out. So afraid that it would rather see children go without their parents, loved ones suffer apart, rather than own up to its criminality. Well, they are being found out, their human rights abuses are being exposed. My hope is that the loving relationships that have been lost can be repaired as Scientologist wake up to the fact that they have been being manipulated into enabling the destruction of ARC itself.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Natalie</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 06:34:37 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Back To Life</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/why-church-members-keep-lying.html#comment-1936</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Thank you for this write up. I have been following these stories now for nearly a year. I was a public Scientologist. Never on staff. Never in the SO and, yet, I had to sort out what kept me in for so long (20-years), and I was just on the peri[censored]ery. All I lost was money. It's been hard to fully grasp how DM rose to power, how he wielded it so destructively and how he has held on to it so long. Your write up has filled in some gaps and I now understand better, though I doubt I will ever fully understand what creeping mechanisms were at work and how the abused prisoners at Int Base must feel.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>craig houchin</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 06:14:17 -0600</pubDate>
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