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		<title>Where is Heber?</title>
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			<title>Perspective</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/where-is-heber.html#comment-4041</link>
			<description><![CDATA[You can always tell those people that were fed what to say before a trial so that it came out a certain way. Don't they know it's obvious?...apparently not. This is why we need smart criminal attorneys to keep the perspective unbiased.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Criminal attorney fan</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2011 14:07:32 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>RE: Where is Heber?</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/where-is-heber.html#comment-3767</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Are there any updates on what has become of Heber?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Rex Davidson</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 14:55:17 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>News, updates?</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/where-is-heber.html#comment-2123</link>
			<description><![CDATA[The last post is 10 days old. What's happening in terms of protests, actions? This could also be coordinated on a facebook group called "Where is Heber Jentzsch?" Anyone welcome there, who wants to stand up against the Church of Scientology with his/her real name.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 02:11:30 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>I agree.</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/where-is-heber.html#comment-2122</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Which opens up further possibilities for action. The felonies are taking place on a private property guarded by armed security. Have you got a tank?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 02:10:28 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>JOSEPH says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/where-is-heber.html#comment-2112</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Thank you Mike for this information on Heber. I worked with him in 1993 at a book convention in Miami. We had a great time and at the end of that week we sat and "talked shop" for an hour. He wanted me to work with him. He needs to know there are people who care about him and would help him anytime he needs it.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>JOSEPH</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 02:09:50 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Guest says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/where-is-heber.html#comment-2018</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I recently saw this posted on another blog: "As citizens, whether a crime is prosecutable is not our problem. That is the job for a prosecutor, and a grand jury, to decide. Not me or you." I completely disagree. Quite the contrary, it is anyone's problem. Many countries, including the United States provide for anyone at all to make a Citizen's Arrest when they have knowledge of a crime, and especially if there are corroborating witnesses. In the US in particular, the perpetrator of any felonious conduct such as assault, is subject to seizure by citizens, and to Citizen's Arrest. I see the "tell the authorities and let them handle it" attitude as encouraging passivity and an abdication of the true responsibility of citizens which is to actively intervene in lawless actions they see taking place. Miscavige could long ago could have been arrested for real by anyone who saw him assault another. Since he often did this in the presence of witnesses, if people were fully informed of their rights under the law and the Constitution, they could have jumped him, seized him, bound him, and delivered him to law enforcement, and brought charges against him, at any time, years ago, and it would be completely legal. It could still be done today. Unfortunately, the government and the law enforcement "authorities", in their zeal to create a passive and easily managed "spectator" populace, have for decades been "educating" the American public away from responsible action and towards passive acceptance of crime, so most people are not aware any more of the realities of their rights to make this kind of arrest. But our government and police authorities have worked for decades to discourage the public from even considering such action. We are all now taught to NOT take action, even when they see a crime occurring. We are told "It's not your problem. Report it to Law Enforcement. Let them take care of it." We are taught to passively accept crime, instead of acting to deal with it, even when we ought to deal with it. Even when we see it happening and it IS our problem. Miscavige could have been put away years ago. It was our right as citizens to arrest him and curtail his activities. Now he's likely spending much time in International waters, where it would be much more difficult to get at him. But perhaps we could hire some of those nice folks from the "famous" Blackwater organization to nab him and make a citizen's arrest of him, when he eventually comes ashore? All we need is someone he assaulted, who is willing to testify against him.... Then we could walk in and free Heber and all the others at once. Here are some links relating to "Citizen's Arrest": [censored]://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Citizen%27s_arrest [censored]://www.criminalattorney.c om/news/citizens-arrest/ [censored]://www.wikihow.com/Make-a -Citizen%27s-Arrest [censored]://www.constitution.org/g rossack/arrest.htm]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 08:09:05 -0600</pubDate>
			<guid>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/where-is-heber.html#comment-2018</guid>
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			<title>Heber</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/where-is-heber.html#comment-2009</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Heber was the definition of free. He was always handling someone and would handle flaps with aplomb. Heber rushed to the Manor during the FBI raids of 1977. He was looking around and someone came up to him and showed him a badge. The man announced: "IRS". Heber looked at the man and said: "I'm sure you do". It was times like that when you needed a man like Heber on your side. Virg]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Virgil Samms</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 11:19:10 -0600</pubDate>
			<guid>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/where-is-heber.html#comment-2009</guid>
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			<title>Ex-Protester says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/where-is-heber.html#comment-2011</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Want to explain DM in as few words as possable? Try "covert counter- intention".Get a dictionary if necessary, but use those words in a few sentences as they might apply to avid Miscavage. Throw off your double-think blinders, and at least think like you had a soul of your own.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ex-Protester</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 08:25:44 -0600</pubDate>
			<guid>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/where-is-heber.html#comment-2011</guid>
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			<title>Carol says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/where-is-heber.html#comment-1991</link>
			<description><![CDATA[This entire story about Heber and all who have left sickens me. This has got to stop now. I know welfare checks work especially if the person is an elder. How about we get Senator Oran Hatch is I believe is a Morman and has stood up for them and if we bring attention to the fact that Heber is a Morman and a Scientologist and the Scientologist leader is harming him perhaps this will bring some heat on the subject. Mormans stick together and help no matter what that I do know to be true. there is a radio station called coast to coast and a story or call in on the show would be good. Many people do listen to coast to coast. George Noory has the live show.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 11:31:29 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Here is what toi do if Heber is really being held</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/where-is-heber.html#comment-1989</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Heber's got approximately 42 siblings,, several ex-wives and a son that should be doing this if in fact he's hostage there. I hope someone checked with his exwife, Karen de la Carriere at Karendelac@aol.com as was done in the past. Ask her what's going on. This is what Mike Rinder, et al, should be doing if they know Heber is being mistreated or held against his will as an elderly person. When all else fails, call Adult Protective Services. This goes for reporting any member age 65 and over. Calling requesting an investigation will get more action than anythiing else. Once this agency gets in, it's hard to get them out. ADULT SERVICES DIVISION ADMINISTRATION 4060 COUNTY CIRCLE DRIVE RIVERSIDE, CA 92503 ADULT PROTECTIVE SERVICES (800) 491-7123 Monday - Thursday 7:00am - 5:30pm, Friday 8:00am - 5:00pm The toll free APS Hot Line tele[censored]one number is 1-800-491-7123. Adult Protective Services (APS) provides a system of in-person response, 24 hours per day, seven days per week. DPSS is responsible for accepting and responding to reports of dependent adult and elder abuse of individuals living in Riverside County. The Adult Protective Services program provides social services interventions to disabled adults (ages 18 and older) and elders (age 65 and older) to alleviate [censored]ysical, sexual and financial abuse, neglect, isolation, abandonment, abduction and mental suffering. The following types of abuse must be reported: • [censored]ysical Abuse • Sexual Abuse • Psychological Abuse • Abandonment • Self Neglect • Financial Abuse • Neglect [censored]://dpss.co.riverside.ca.u s/AdultServices.aspx#APS]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Mary McConnell</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 09:30:37 -0600</pubDate>
			<guid>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/where-is-heber.html#comment-1989</guid>
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			<title>Martin says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/where-is-heber.html#comment-1987</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Heber always seemed like a Statesman to me, or at least what a statesman should be like. His conversation was easy, relaxed, always humorous and incisive. I was priveleged to work with him during and after Portland 1985 and he was amazingly generous in his praise and encouragement. He was telling me of a moment once during the Portland crusade when John Travolta had just flown in to lend his support. Whilst there was little fuss apart from some obvious media attention, the police were flapping and barking out unnecessary orders to all who would listen. Heber went up to the Office in charge and asked him "What is it you are trying to stop?" . The officer apparently jolted out of his mental circuitry, itsa'd about this for a few moments and all was calm and good. He relayed this story in such a way I couldn't breathe for laughing for several minutes afterwards. God bless you Heber, we miss you and hopefully will see you again very soon.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 07:50:45 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Why not get the authorities to act?</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/where-is-heber.html#comment-1986</link>
			<description><![CDATA[It seems to me that there are enough witnesses to the abuses that are going on to get the authorities to raid the compound that these people are being held in. It sounds as if some of you guys and show them directly where these people are being held, and can get them set free.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 06:03:27 -0600</pubDate>
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