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			<title>RE: Scientology Dissemination</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/scientology-dissemination.html#comment-5480</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Handle with truth. Who'd have thought it?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Artful</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 15 Dec 2013 17:02:44 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>I had the SAME experience</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/scientology-dissemination.html#comment-3050</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi Steve, you know, every morning starts with checking your site and Marty's for any new "news". Without going into it, I also work on "making" new news too - but that is only a comment on the side. When I don't see new posts I look for some that I haven't read yet on your site and so came across this one. Without going into detail, I had the SAME experience - and didn't realize how very much I WAS doing the Liability formula with my environment. I told my brothers and sister what ACTUALLY happened in my own family (disconnection wise - even though I have been strictly LYING to them for years about it) - when I let the cat out of the sack (made up of "protecting the Scientology by concealing what really goes on" - I was VERY concerned they would blow up (not so much "into my face" but "going public" - which, at that time was of concern to me, today I would (and will!) welcome it. What was the reaction: UNDERSTANDING AND ARC! Not an "oh you poor thing" reaction but "aha, I get it" - AND telling me that one of them was actually about to search for a lost family member because she simply didn't buy the false story - as my family was too good a family before for it to make any sense whatsoever to suddenly split up. My girl friend kept telling me over the years (before becoming honest with her on what it was to be in the SO) that she understands and loves the man I am but that I seemed to be "another man" when it comes to the subject of Scientology. She just couldn't understand how I would defend or somehow justify ABUSE, DESTRUCTION OF MY O-W-N FAMILY etc. I was deeply concerned she would simply go to town on destroying Scientology should I tell the truth. Same "miracle" - UNDERSTANDING and, for the first time, GENUINELY accepting that I LOVE ACTUAL SCIENTOLOGY. AND, being very helpful in righting the wrongs. While I do want her to reach and use actual Scientology I am at the same time truly relaxed about it if she doesn't jump at it - it really is HER choice, not mine. But the process - TRUTH - works! Thanks for the spot-on LRH reference! Love, George]]></description>
			<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 15:38:00 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>We Support The Truth</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/scientology-dissemination.html#comment-2287</link>
			<description><![CDATA[We Support The truth CHORUS Truth, We support the truth The good, the bad, the ugly We support the truth VERSE We come back To blow the whistle Reveal the lies In the light of truth Hello we're back And we are legion No place to hide In the light of truth CHORUS Truth, We support the truth The good, the bad, the ugly We support the truth]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ex GEM</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 03:55:15 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>John Doe says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/scientology-dissemination.html#comment-2247</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Jim. I'd come to a similar conclusion about it. (BTW, that was my "anonymous" comment; hit the wrong button) Nothing like live, genuine, unfilter communication about something that one is truly enthusiastic about. For the most part, all the "techniques" of dissemination, for me, added up to yet another "now you're supposed to".]]></description>
			<dc:creator>John Doe</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 16:14:44 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>ceestr8 says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/scientology-dissemination.html#comment-2246</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Thoughtful - well said, and thanks for the ack.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>ceestr8</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 12:28:28 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>TRUTH says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/scientology-dissemination.html#comment-2243</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Great post Steve. Thank you! Interesting that you mentioned about disseminating with truth. That is exactly what I have been doing since I left the church of Miscavology. All my coworkers, friends and people in general who were not willing to accept Scientology, are now open to talk to me about the [censored]iloso[censored]y. Because I am truly listening to them and answering their questions and concerns about the church. I am no longer covering up for the leader's (DM) abuses and misconduct. I just deliver the truth,which as a result people's affinity for Scientology as a subject is increasing and are more willing to learn about Scientology,but stay away from the church of Miscavology. Truth always wins! Thank you for being there and communicating the truth.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>TRUTH</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 12:06:00 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>OnceUponaTime says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/scientology-dissemination.html#comment-2245</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Yah know, Steve, I have enough hubris to go my own way despite what anyone else thinks. And in that arrogance, I just don't like anyone telling me what I can and can't do, so I took my own spiritual path. And succeeded in gaining what I wanted. But, I recognize that I would not have made the gains I did without the background in Scientology. With that in mind, and with the emergence of a rational independent field, I recognize the need to expose as many people to the information as possible. Auditing is good. Training is good. The lectures and books are good. So what if someone studies the subject and decides not to become a Scientologist; at least they've been exposed to a new view on life. People read about Buddhism, Christianity and other [censored]iloso[censored]ies without converting, yet walk away a bit wiser. Too often I see on the internet where someone has disagreed with the Church of Scientology and decided to start a new subject around the same basic [censored]iloso[censored]y. Maybe legal issues prompted some of this. Maybe emotions. But, their successes seem always to trace back to and be based upon the basic tech of Scientology. I don't disagree with the right of a person to do as they wish with their ideas. But truth is truth and when you borrow someone's work you should show a bit of gratitude. Anyways, even though you could probably not call me a Scientologist, I firmly believe that you should study the basics without the alter-isness. After all, if you are to disagree with a subject you should understand exactly what you are disagreeing with. And, in studying the subject, you may find more agreements than disagreements. As for your dad and the poem, I'm a father now. Sometimes I'm acutely aware of how the tiniest things will greatly influence my kids. You never know how much you can love another person until you have a child. But, as with a great river, that flow moves forward and encompasses. Much love, Michael]]></description>
			<dc:creator>OnceUponaTime</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:04:15 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>jim logan says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Anonymous, As to your question and experience I'll offer up something. Scientology is a means of knowing. You have within you the ability to know which includes an innate ability to resolve how to communicate to someone what you want to about Scientology. I was very much like you initially and sold hundreds of books and got hundreds of people in the front door of a mission or church just by sheer enthusiasm and intention. Who cares if Mike Silverman thinks that's OK or it follows the Dissem Drill? Talk to people. Most of them are pretty much either 'in session' or on the verge of it. I listen and originate and in a two-way comm it becomes an effort NOT to disseminate. Now, here's an idea, never mind the dissem drill, next person you talk to, run whatever it is they are in with lock scanning.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>jim logan</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 06:18:04 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Wow.  There you go again Steve!!!</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/scientology-dissemination.html#comment-2238</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I am one of those who have been rehabbed. And this post and others like it are why. Real Scientology!!! I am printing this post out. Goodness, just printed out Haydn's from yesterday. Need to read these more than once. Incredible, Steve and well done!! This data about your friend reaching after hearing the truth is really important. What a freedom, to just be able to communicate what IS. Simplicity itself! Thanks - laughing and very keyed out!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>one of those who see</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 20:07:59 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Dementors</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/scientology-dissemination.html#comment-2237</link>
			<description><![CDATA[That's an inspired analogy, Steve. If you're in a sillier mood and willing to grant him significantly less power, you can think of him as Snidely Whiplash.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>lunamoth</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 20:04:48 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Scientology, a salvage operation</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/scientology-dissemination.html#comment-2236</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Steve, your remark about USS Miscavage hitting an iceburg brought this idea to mind, but it seems to me that what I am personally interested in is just salvaging the subject of Scientology. I have no real interest in Miscavage, but I would like the bridge without him.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 19:39:49 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>My problem with dissemination</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/scientology-dissemination.html#comment-2235</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Thanks Steve, for a very insightful article. When I first got into Scientology many years ago, I got 6 of my friends/family to do the comm course. All finished the course, although most did not continue; one did for at least a couple of decades. I disseminated to these people using only sheer enthusiasm about what I had discovered, and the desire for others to have similar wins. A couple of months later, I was introduced to the dissem drill PL and that was that as far as me having any success with dissemination. This was several years before DM, and I have to say that idea of "handling the black PR of Scientology" was around well before him. However, my biggest problem with dissemination was never a lack of any tech of dissemination, as much as the fact that I am an honest person. I've only recently realized this. I always felt I was putting something over on my potential selectee(s). For example, I was taught in a seminar given by Michael Silverman that you weren't supposed to answer people when they asked "What IS scientology?" but instead attempt to find their ruin, and then after you get it, assure them that Scientology will handle that ruin. In my case, this assurance came not from being tech trained, or understanding, really, which particular bit of tech would be used to address the ruin, but from the belief I'd adopted that Scientology can handle anything. As well as being taught not to answer questions about certain aspects of Scientology when talking to a new person, I also had my own reticence. I mean, if I were to be completely truthful, I would have to reveal things such as: You will be hounded to pay tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars for services Most Scientologist have gotten accustomed to the idea that it is perfectly normal to be tens of thousands of dollars in debt on credit cards Etc etc. Many of these ideas well pre-date David Miscavaige. So how does one maintain one's own sense of honesty and still get people interested in Scientology, or, even answer an innocuous questions such as, "What has been a your experience being a Scientologist?"]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 19:26:06 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>ceestra8</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[That's almost a mirror image of my story. Thank god for the wonderful wives who have been there to pluck us out of the sea after the USS Miscavige hit Iceberg X.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Thoughtful</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 18:41:44 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Greed</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/scientology-dissemination.html#comment-2229</link>
			<description><![CDATA[She's went into the local org and got auditing, but now is continuing up the Bridge outside in the Indie field. I didn't have to get her out, the greedy org staff ran her off by caring more about her wallet than her Bridge progress.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Thoughtful</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 18:00:42 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Tommy Davis is no Scientologist</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/scientology-dissemination.html#comment-2228</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Tommy Davis was talking about people who pretend to be Scientologists, but have no use for the [censored]iloso[censored]y. You inspired this article. Thanks for that. And as for exactly what Tommy Davis IS, here is the applicable reference from Wikipedia: "A Dementor is a Dark creature, considered the foulest that inhabit the world. Dementors feed off human happiness, and thus cause depression and despair to any who are in close proximity to them. They are also capable of consuming a person's soul, leaving their victims in a permanent vegetative state, and thus are often referred to as soul-sucking fiends."]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Thoughtful</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:58:10 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>jim logan says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/scientology-dissemination.html#comment-2221</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Steve Hall, for this posting, for your work, for the infinite free theta you have shared and will, for you here is a big, warm, full and embracing theta hug from me. Man, what a blast it is having you around.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>jim logan</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 16:01:10 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>because says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/scientology-dissemination.html#comment-2239</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Thoughtful, This post has just helped unlock this block I've had with dissemination over many years. As you stated "The truth MAKES SENSE TO PEOPLE" yes and they see it when they come in. So to go about and avoiding or covering up for the outpoint itself counters the effort. And the truth becomes understandable. Thanks, for being here.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>because</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:35:17 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>So true</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/scientology-dissemination.html#comment-2232</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Thoughtful, your post is so spot-on... I've been off staff and out of the church for quite some time now, and even though since my leaving I'd have very little to do with it, for the longest time I always took a very defensive posture when the church, Scientology, or LRH's name was challenged. This is despite the fact I had my own disagreements and that I was was glad to be out. Simply put, I'd have to say I was still brainwashed; so to speak. However, Marty's writings, the current media expose, and most specifically insistence from my wife (a non-scientologist) to open my eyes, caused me to fully see the truth and stop defending the lies... I would not have thought my wife would entertain the idea of spiritual enhancement for herself (and frankly I thought she had cut herself off from it), but recently a very interesting thing happened: she originated a strong interest for me to help her address some past issues with Dianetic auditing. Now this is from someone with no direct experience with the subject, and has been dead against the church and anything Scientology since we first met. Amazing...dissemination is effortless once the BS and lies are off the line.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>ceestr8</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 12:31:36 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>I don\'t blame anyone for being upset with the CoS</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/scientology-dissemination.html#comment-2230</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Dumb story, but the Drummer poem was my intro to [censored]iloso[censored]y. When I was about 10 years old, my Dad typed up that poem by Thoreau and gave it to me. I kept it on my bulletin board for about the next 10 years because it seemed somehow foretelling of something or other... "If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away." -- Henry David Thoreau Years later I remarked on the gift because to me it was profound. He was like, "What poem?" lol. To him, to him it had no more significant than the [censored]one book or an interesting postage stamp. But it got me interested in [censored]iloso[censored]y. :-) Glad to have you on board in any capacity.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Thoughtful</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 12:30:15 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>This Truth</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/scientology-dissemination.html#comment-2215</link>
			<description><![CDATA[We had talked recently and kinda gotten out of non-e, so to speak and I agree with what you have to say above and with the addition of 'The Art of War' so often recommended by LRH we can resolve a handling. Our staying Fabian for the while, while you continue with your sites, and attack dm from all fronts with the Truth, we cannot do anything else but win and win OUR Church back from he who enslaves it.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Pericles</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 08:18:47 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Misha says:</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/scientology-dissemination.html#comment-2209</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Great on succeeding with your dissemination and on your past accomplishments! Excellent point on truth restoring dissemination! In regards to the group condition, unfortunately, I think Liability is way high a condition to apply. I believe Scientology internationally is in Confusion or Treason at the very best. You may not easily see it because you ARE wearing your hat. Scienttology isn't.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Misha</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 06:54:59 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Marching to Truth\'s Drummer</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/scientology-dissemination.html#comment-2208</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Steve, I can verify this. I had long been out of Scientology, and I hated the church, and I hated every single celebrity who represented the church. Absolutely despised the organization for all the lies and abuses. Even though I knew many members were honest and decent, I also knew they were supporting a monster. Had the whole church collapsed and the entire executive strata been thrown into prison for life I would have been leaping around the living room in ecstasy. But though I often thought of throwing all my Scientology books and tapes and other material in the trash, I never did. Some part of me said wait. Not until I started reading the authors on your web site and reading Marty's blog did I even entertain giving Scientology another chance. I've gotten out those books gathering dust, started listening to lectures again, and re-acknowledged the value of Ron's work. I've read the worst and no longer use any of that against the subject or LRH. I've moved from being an enemy of scientology to being a friend. To claim that I will hereafter and forever be a KSW Scientologist would just be another lie, I've seen too much, experienced too much. But if moving an opponent into supporter status can be classified as a win, then you and Haydn and Jeff and Marty and David can count me as a success. And all because of the courage to release Truth's drummer. Much love, Michael]]></description>
			<dc:creator>OnceUponaTime</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 06:46:44 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Dissem</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/scientology-dissemination.html#comment-2207</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Dear Steve, You did a masterful job on the handle step. While I was a reg for years that particular step always would trip me up. And at that time, scn didn't have bad pr - just no pr. Question though -- you mentioned your friend getting on the bridge once you figured out the bug -- did she go into an org/mission OR "on the bridge" out in the field. If she went into an org/mission -- how are you goin' to get her out? :-) I couldn't tell -- Love, WH]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Windhorse</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 06:11:15 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Maurice says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Great essay, Steve, and excellent handling.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Maurice</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 03:32:48 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Moving Forward says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[As soon as I read the line, "But I was schooled in a David Miscavige version of the Dissem Drill whereby the “Handle” step was altered into “Handle the person’s Black PR.” Well, I finally reviewed the policy and that’s not what LRH wrote. I had false data." I laughed and laughed because I knew immediately where you were going with this and it indicated big-time. It's amazing what can happen when you're actually straight with people. And there is another point: treating people with respect, intelligence and granting them beingness. DM completely demolished this in the dissemination of Dianetics. I got 'drilled' on his horrible and demeaning 'New York' book sales patter, which was designed to treat people like circuits -- quite literally. It was drummed into the book sellers that prospective buyers were just circuits and you needed to overpower that circuit to get them to buy the book. No dissem drill (of course, since DM knows best!). I hated it and refused to apply it (and sold more books by just listening to people than others did while trying to cram Dianetics DM-style down the throats of the person they were talking to).]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Moving Forward</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 00:08:30 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Very Good</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/scientology-dissemination.html#comment-2204</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Well, there you go giving me hope once again, Steve! :-) I hadn't thought of disseminating ever again due to all that I'd have to withhold about the church's abuse. But then, we aren't talking about disseminating for the church anymore, are we. We're talking about telling the truth and getting somebody onto a service in the Indie field. Thanks for the insight. Now the big test is, can we muster up the courage to do what you've described above? Why not. Afterall, despite what Tommy Davis says, we're Scientologists! ARC, Idle Org]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Idle Org</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 23:34:37 -0600</pubDate>
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