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			<title>Thanks for the tip</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Thanks Ceileen, good hint - as I do continue on this subject and try to get at a true address list.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 22:19:21 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Kudos</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[George, This is greatly appreciated. I spent several hours on those sites myself as part of my Doubt Formula. I did not do the thorough research that you did, and I am glad to know that the reason I had so much trouble traveling around the sites was not because I am 'stupid' as it was most frustrating, I found the infor misleading and convoluted, repetitive and just downright hard to find what I was looking for. On the discrepancies of number of orgs, it might be that Day and Fdn are counted separately, although at the same address. As far as I know, the only orgs that were "closed" and they were cleverly "merged", were the Celeb Ctrs, such as Portland, Las Vegas, etc. I know there were several of them around the world that became part of the local org in the city, if there was a CC and a Class V Org in the same city. There have been many changes/closures in the Mission Network, but I am not so familiar with that. Good job!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ceileen</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2010 02:15:01 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Lady Lancelot says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[The Mission in Redondo Beach closed recently. It failed in my opinion because the ED was a wacko. But the Church said we were not to say the Mission was closed. That would be out-PR. What ever happened to the old fashioned idea of honesty? It failed because the ED was a wacko and drove people away. What's wrong with just calling it like it is?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Lady Lancelot</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 00:24:47 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>George says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[The best person to answer that is probably Dan Koon (aka Joe Howard) who also posts on this site - he has his own section. He's beein in RTRC and has worked with LRH (including starring in a TR's film - that's where his aka Joe Howard comes from). You can reach him via this address: dankoon1@sbcglobal.net (I hope he doesn't mind me - I had a tech question too and he was very helpful). Best Geroge]]></description>
			<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 17:18:35 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>real preservation of the tech</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[I was doing my PTS/SP course in the late 90's and my transcripts (borrowed and more recent) were missing an entire sentence from the taped lecture. Now I understand it's all throughout what used to be The Tech. How do we find and preserve original recordings like the PDC lectures? How do we get back what the great midget has destroyed? Is anyone archiving the real tech? Is it lost forever?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>superstatic007</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 09:12:36 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>George says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[The lies are so outrageous that they are, at first, hard to believe if not "unbelievable" (e.g. invented "expansion" and "events" etc. etc.). One sort of has to get used to the idea that the little man invented and created a total fantasy world for the true "believers". Labeling "looking for oneself" as "out ethics" and "handling that out ethics" keeps them locked into that world. I hope a few more start looking.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 09:38:38 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>War and Peace says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[George, Thank you for dispassionately and factually posting this statistical analysis based on research. The falsehoods spouted and INT events are as bad as Tommy Davis lies. The unprecedented "expansion" and "boom" is highly misleading. I know of a particular OT 7 who handed in her Solo folders never to return. She was given a video camera by IAS to get some footage for an INT event, as she had celebrity /media comm lines. To her shock and dismay they used her name and city and prattled out a TOTAL LIE. An invented occurrence that never happened. OSA ignored her KRs. Just another INT event falsehood prattled out by DM.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>War and Peace</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 03:04:46 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>CBO Issue</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[George, Sorry I don't have the issue. Wish I did. Why don't you email me (via Dan Koon has my email address) and maybe we can solve the problem.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Nighmares Getting Less</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 19:50:27 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>George says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hello LO, please see my reply to your comment below under "Anonymous" (didn't reply properly). ML, George]]></description>
			<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 12:53:58 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>George says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hello Fidelio, It took me almost 2 full days! LOL ... just to find addresses ... it's really something to (explosively) laugh about. George]]></description>
			<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:44:43 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>George says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Do you have a copy of that CBO available or know where to get a copy from? Would like to look into that when further looking into those "lost orgs" as it definitely is a lead to pursue. George.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:42:58 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Guest says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[George, Good stuff. Do you or anyone knows which CL V Orgs have closed down? LRH specifically states in a Central Bureaux Order issue (early 70's) that it's forbidden to shut down an org or combine a Day and Fdn Org together.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 09:29:53 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Awesome job!!!</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[George, this is a friggin' awesome job. I did my own little superficial fumbling on that just to get some certainty on what I felt to be the case for myself. And just that took me hours of wading through the swamp of lies and omitted data. So, thank you VERY VERY VERY much to have confronted that helluva job! Fidelio]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Fidelio</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 04:26:36 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Peter says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA["What about new people, aren't we supposed to be welcoming the crowds of new people? NO - because Miscarriage´s intention is to UNMOCK and DESTROY CofS. He is an old implanter finishing his work.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 02:12:43 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Guest says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[You are pointing to the REAL outpoint. It is PREVENTING Scientology from growing. There's a PL (I don't have the OEC Volumes) where LRH refers to what it takes to make an Org fail - make it IMPOSSIBLE to find it.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 00:27:55 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Guest says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hello LO, Agree with you. You gave very interesting further leads to find out. Yes, I will do more research (it's just soooo bloody time consuming when LRH wanted it to be soooo simple). However, what I really want is an honest address list published on scientology.org where everyone would look for one. However, I do have my doubts they will easily fix this obvious outpoint. Feeding the data to any media one has a contact too may bring on the necessary pressure. ML, George]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 00:25:13 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>I knew it!</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[I recently wanted to visit an "Ideal Org" in another city when I was on vacation. I thought it would be easy enough to find the address on the official website scientology.org. But I searched and searched and it was really annoying that I couldn't find it quickly. I finally went to Google Maps and found it in 2 seconds. How does hiding the addresses make any sense to a Scientologist? We don't want Anonymous to know where we are? What about new people, aren't we supposed to be welcoming the crowds of new people?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>ClearlyMistreated</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:36:11 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>LO says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Dear George, Very well done. You did what I once wanted to do. A thorough investigastion of how the C.O.S is using the Internet. After i did some research I gave up as the Listing of their overt products would fill a book, i couldn't believe of the nonsense I found. I gave up. Bravo you did some of the work. Here some example: - Dianetics.org = zero traffic - Compare the fastest grewing religion in the world to watchtower.org (alexa.com). The Jehova Witnesses have about 4x more traffic and it's an honest traffic (not realised through google ads). Nearly 80% of the traffic on Scientology.org is realised by ads (chapter clickstream alexa.com). If what COB promotes 800000000 people reached trough the internet than wachtower.org must have reached about 3.2 billions and the catholic church 20 billions. Where are all those people. Very sinple you count a scientologist as vm, then fsm, the ias member, then cchr Member, perhaps he's member of a group dianetics, then as a supporter of narconon, crimonon, ot committee member ad infinitum. Very easy you can make out of one Scientologist 8 by just enrolling one on all kind of things you get at the end 8 members ! - go onto bridge publications website and try to find the oec volumes or the management series and inform yourself about it. Impossible !!! I would enjoy if you continue with your analysis. ML LO]]></description>
			<dc:creator>LO</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:13:54 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Li Po says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[OOOOOH! Sneaky boy! I love your "sens de l'humour" (sense of humor,singular,in french). You made my day!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Li Po</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:25:23 -0600</pubDate>
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