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		<title>PTS/SP Tech corrupted</title>
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			<title>RE: PTS/SP Tech corrupted</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/pts-sp-tech-corrupted.html#comment-3433</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Great article! If the PTS SP Tech were applied correctly DM and his Cof$ would be instantly declared SP and the church a supressive group. But people continue to be PTS because they are not allowed to give the right item. DM is an SP that has turned the good staff with good intentions to help others into degrated beings who commit atrocities in the name of Scn.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>aida thomas</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 10:15:06 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>RE: PTS/SP Tech corrupted</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/pts-sp-tech-corrupted.html#comment-3419</link>
			<description><![CDATA[You cannot allow an SP to carry on with this as the church is today. Its a misrepresentation of the truth and suppressive,IN what Scientology is. What DM is doing is not Scientology and that any one inside or out must know as soon as possible. He is Suppressive]]></description>
			<dc:creator>hadley</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 09:28:50 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>RE: Plain Old Thetan...Thanks!</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/pts-sp-tech-corrupted.html#comment-3369</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Glad you found the reference. And no problem re: the rest. I'm not infallible and can use all the side-checkin' people want to offer.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>PlainOldThetan</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 22:54:21 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Plain Old Thetan...Thanks!</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/pts-sp-tech-corrupted.html#comment-3352</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the reply. I hope you did not take my response to mean you were wrong. I was pointing out exactly what you stated and that I think the Two Types of PTSes HCOB, written 8 months before LRH dropped his body, is altered. I can see by the BBC of people on these sites that the PTS Tech was horribly perverted and I thank you for writing the truth. I hope it clears up some confusion. By the way, I did find the quote you posted above in Search and Discovery 24 Nov. 1965. Thanks]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Me</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 08:28:08 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>RE: PTS/SP Tech corrupted</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/pts-sp-tech-corrupted.html#comment-3335</link>
			<description><![CDATA[You are correct; I omitted several sentences out of the C/S 79 bulletin without noting they'd been omitted. However, in my PTS/SP pack, my old tech vol VI, and my new Tech Vol VII, the paragra[censored] cited is there, camouflaged in paragra[censored] 2 of the "HANDLING THE TYPE I PTS" section. As for the rest, I said it was situation was a ha[censored]azard mess of perverted false data, didn't I? You and I may be able to see the data in the bulletins, but that isn't how it's being used in the Church. Which is why I wrote the piece. Frankly, I suspect (but cannot prove) that the HCOB 21 May 1985 TWO TYPES OF PTSes -- at least the "Scientology VIP" part -- is a DM insertion, due to the date. I have read elsewhere that the PTSness and DISCONNECTION bulletin has a big ol' fat David Miscavigism in it, and the date of that issue is 10 September 83. Note also that the date of TWO TYPES OF PTSes is just after massive out-exchange donations became "legal" in the Church.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>PlainOldThetan</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 23:27:13 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Re: PTS/SP Tech corrupted</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/pts-sp-tech-corrupted.html#comment-3333</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Plain Old Thetan, Nice write up. The tape that discusses this exact subject is called, "Briefing to Review Auditors". Have no idea what the date is. I listened to it many years ago. I posted a response to one of the writers on Marty's blog tonight that is on this exact subject and how I felt pts to the CS!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Penny Krieger</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 22:29:12 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>RE: Auditors who suppress</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/pts-sp-tech-corrupted.html#comment-3327</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Exactly Fellow Traveller. Just because someone commits a suppressive action do not mean that person is a suppressive person. The PTS and Suppression Tech has been perverted and used to harm. Now this great tool of handling PTSness has been degraded to a point were the people it has misused on thinks it is only a control tool. Thank you for the reference.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Me</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 13:17:03 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>RE: PTS/SP Tech corrupted</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/pts-sp-tech-corrupted.html#comment-3326</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I have do correct your quotes on PTS Interviews. It actually states: "A somewhat suppressive pc will find the good hats suppressive. This does not relieve his condition. He is PTS to SP people, groups, things or location, no matter how SP he is." He can have been audited by someone he knew in an earlier life and who goofed the session. A few auditors have since been declared. Not because they goofed but because they were SP." Then the next paragra[censored] states: "However, some PTS pc will make trouble for good people because that is what PTS means (potential trouble source). So do not buy all the good people he is PTS to." This following reference has altered the reference PTS Interviews: In the 21 May 1985 HCOB, TWO TYPES OF PTSes, the reference you are giving above states: "(Ref: HCOB 24 Apr. 72 C/S Series 70, PTS INTERVIEWS)If a standard interview is done and the pc names well-intentioned persons as the people he is PTS to, the C/S, seeing this, would not order a PTS Rundown. The C/S would program the case for those auditing rundowns designed to uncover and blow O/Ws and evil purposes." Now go the the reference PTS INTERVIEWS and you will see the TWO TYPES OF PTS INTERVIEWS HCOB alters PTS INTERVIEWS which never uses the term "well-intentioned person" and it never states that if the pc gives a well-intentioned person as who he is PTS to that the C/S would not order the PTS Rundown.Nor does it state that the pc would be C/S for rundowns to blow O/Ws and evil purposes. Why is the reference PTS INTERVIEWS given in the 1985 TWO TYPES OF PTSes that says none of the things it states? I also cannot find the quote you are giving in the Search and Discovery HCOB. I am using an old 1989 PTS/SP Auditor Course pack reference. Is the Tech Vol reference you are using different? It seems like the PTS tech may have been altered in 1985.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Me</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 09:10:49 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Auditors who suppress</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/pts-sp-tech-corrupted.html#comment-3321</link>
			<description><![CDATA[BRIEFING OF REVIEW AUDITORS 14 October 1965 Bruce Pratt]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Fellow Traveller</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 16:07:11 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>RE: PTS/SP Tech corrupted</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/pts-sp-tech-corrupted.html#comment-3318</link>
			<description><![CDATA[In @ 1978-9,I realized that I was not allowed to finish my NED course because of David Miscavage ( I wanted to co-audit NED, but nobody was doing the co-audit) so I left the church. I agree with Plain Old Thetan, Miscavage is SP, and the Church is PTS to him.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Duckman</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 13:33:19 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>RE: PTS/SP Tech corrupted</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/pts-sp-tech-corrupted.html#comment-3317</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Excellent article with great references!!! If this was applied the situation would resolve in a second!:)]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Conny Lundberg</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 13:15:37 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>RE: PTS/SP Tech corrupted</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/pts-sp-tech-corrupted.html#comment-3313</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Nice job spotting that Plain Old Thetan. To bolster this even more is LRH's talk to Flag MAAs. He said para[censored]rase) "Okay, how about when a PC gets sick after session. If this because of suppression?" His answer was yes, because a pc whohas standard tech run on him never gets sick. A pc who had out tech run on him is suppressed by the auditor or the c/s or both. This doesn't mean they are sps it means the pc was suppressed by them and if you pull the string you will find an SP at the bottom of the c/s or auditor. Intersting, no? So there it is. It can be that an auditor, c/s, exec, IAS reg and so forth are suppressing people and behind them is a BIG SP - the mother of all squirrels. So your string pull is completely valid and my hat is off to you. Tom]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Virgil</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 11:49:09 -0600</pubDate>
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