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		<title>The "plot" to "take over the church"</title>
		<description>Discuss The "plot" to "take over the church"</description>
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			<title>David Miscavige</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/the-qplotq-to-qtake-over-the-churchq.html#comment-4031</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I don't mean to dampen your enthusiasm, but DM is not a plant. He is an implanter and a sociopath. The fact that an SP finds support outside — one can always find "counter intention to match their own." No one is running DM. He's the article himself. Likewise, Hitler and those other people were not "plants." They were SPs themselves. A plant is just someone sent into a group to cause trouble.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Thoughtful</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 15:50:17 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>DM a Govt plant ???</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/the-qplotq-to-qtake-over-the-churchq.html#comment-4028</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Could it be Mr M is a plant? Seems hard to believe, until looking at a lot of data. Take a good long look at past dictators and their methods of operation. Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot (Cambodian dictator of the 1970's),Sadam Hussein, etc. All had obsessive forcefull controll operations going on. All had spy networks to find out who was "with" them and who was "against" them. Efforts to dig up as much dirt as possible on it's citizens. And Dossiers. All had henchmen working for them to enforce or eradicate. Virtually all had amazing PR to make themselves look good, and controll of comm lines to make "rivals" look bad. Each one had been supported by influencial forces from OUTSIDE their contries. And each one brought about lots of destruction, either immediately or eventually. Ruined lives, misery, poverty. Anyone around was usually nervously obediant and went along with things, or they got wacked. And a small few were psychotic themselves and fit right in to the scheme. And some, who had SPINES in their backs, said to heck with this and got out. And spoke out and tried to DO something about it. (*important note - getting out of suppression and insanity, and saying something about it is not the same as blowing or nattering. Big difference). Now take a good hard look at what has been going on in the Church. Notice similarities ? Keep looking, might notice LOTS. Spy cameras all over, dirt files on PCs to be constantly reloaded with as much new dirt as possible, unusual forms to be filled out asking for unnecessary personal information, church parishioners being used to spy on each other. And watch the movie - Manchurian Candidate again. This movie is based on true incidents and tactics of the past. Put a plant or 2 in a group to control it and mess things up. Look at the results created in the church. Altered tech, altered purposes. Lots of entheta. Ruined lives... Don't forget it was DM who accused the first Senior CS Int of being a plant. Could it not be that DM himself is really the plant? Where exactly does he go when he's outside the church, and who does he talk with ? Could this be the reason he won't go in session himself ? DM being the plant could answer a LOT of questions. My husband feels this would be a fantastic line to investigate. What do you say guys ???]]></description>
			<dc:creator>a johnson</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 15:04:35 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>RE: The &quot;plot&quot; to &quot;take over the church&quot;</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/the-qplotq-to-qtake-over-the-churchq.html#comment-3845</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Steve, I appreciate all that you are doing to expose DM's crimes. You are providing air cover for those of us who are auditing full time in the field today. We are using current technology like Skype Video and Virtual Clarity Meters to deliver auditing every day to PCs located all over the USA. My primary target is to repair staff and public who have been harmed by their exposure to the COS. The three swing F/N idiocy is creating new prospects for independent auditing faster than we can handle them. There is little possibility that any independents will get suckered into "taking over the church". That would be like "taking command" of the Titanic as it begins sliding under the water.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>David St Lawrence</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 23:07:11 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>RE: The &quot;plot&quot; to &quot;take over the church&quot;</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/the-qplotq-to-qtake-over-the-churchq.html#comment-3843</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Bravo for admonishing people to NOT be spectators. We'll all need to be doing something more than reading and commenting on blogs. My contibution has been auditing daily on my Clearing Course, and this Sunday I am officially starting a Scientology Study Group and expect to be helping a couple of individuals who have already started their Primary Rundown checksheets. It surely will be good when David Miscavige is gone, but that doesn't come close to getting Scientology even back to square zero, and this planet is still going steadily downhill. Independent Scientologists need to get busy and stay busy!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ron Matlock</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 06:18:12 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>RE: The &quot;plot&quot; to &quot;take over the church&quot;</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/the-qplotq-to-qtake-over-the-churchq.html#comment-3838</link>
			<description><![CDATA[How about "The plot to get up the bridge"? What we need is web based training and, maybe, web based co-auditing. There are enough of us to really do that. It could not have been done in 1951, but the technology exists today, in the form of the internet, Skype, and c-meters. Ron said something about the need for others to organise the tech in KSW #1.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>John Gault</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 11:56:58 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>RE: The</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/the-qplotq-to-qtake-over-the-churchq.html#comment-3837</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Good valid points. I especially liked the constructive point of reconnection "to support each other as friends and create a healthy social network." Independent Scientologists have an opportunity to show that an environment with high ARC and respect for each other is possible. It is not an easy task for the Co$ is active suppressing and 3th partying all of us, but it can be done.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>MostlyLurker</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 10:36:26 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>RE: The &quot;plot&quot; to &quot;take over the church&quot;</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/the-qplotq-to-qtake-over-the-churchq.html#comment-3836</link>
			<description><![CDATA[You are very correct Steve. The focus of putting in order is the way to go. What a crazy experience for Marc! It's amazing how the C of S hides what is really going on.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Natalie</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 07:25:43 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>RE: The &quot;plot&quot; to &quot;take over the church&quot;</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/the-qplotq-to-qtake-over-the-churchq.html#comment-3835</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Very good points in your article. Look forward to more. I have taken your "Constructive" point since the spring of 2009 when the Truth RD was published by the Tampa/St Pete Times. That got my ostrich head out of the sand and thus my radar up.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>barney rubble</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 01:38:24 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>RE: The &quot;plot&quot; to &quot;take over the church&quot;</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/the-qplotq-to-qtake-over-the-churchq.html#comment-3833</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Thanks again for such an astute analysis. As full-time independent auditors, my wife and I appreciate greatly the constant exposure of crimes by Miscavige and the running of the 3D engrams created by him and his minions. Les Warren]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Les Warren</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 19:24:15 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>RE: The &quot;plot&quot; to &quot;take over the church&quot;</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/the-qplotq-to-qtake-over-the-churchq.html#comment-3831</link>
			<description><![CDATA[What a fantastic write-up. The Silver lining section is so true. DM's group lies, has in the past lied and continues to lie about the where abouts of people.Weak degraded beings are all that is left in the class lV orgs also.keeping the truth from others is a huge overt.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 19:02:06 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Murray</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/the-qplotq-to-qtake-over-the-churchq.html#comment-3830</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Thoughtful, Thanks for telling it like it is, you couldn't have said it better. I got on this guys facebook also. It was like he is the King and the "New" people who got out should ask his permission to move forward. He is the one fomenting strife. He also made it sound that he spoke for Anonymous. Doing exactly what DM wants him to do-I spoke with one of my old friends who got out when he got out and he said he is a nice guy. I asked him to speak with him so maybe he could get a grasp on the current scene. I know how things were in the early 80s. What some of these fellows who got out than do not understand is how much worse it is. At least back than you could get good auditing. Now the tech has been so degraded by Miscavige that it is harmful. I know that is hard for some to comprehend but it is true. Miscavige has turned the Church into a suppressive group. I have had all kinds of cognitions on how LRH helped set this up but that is for another time. Again Steve, that is one of the best writeups on the current scene that could have been said. You pulled no punches. Anyone who attacks you, Marty or Mike either lacks data or really is out to help Miscavige. Miscavige isn't afraid of this guy. He is afraid of you guys and what the independent movement is doing now.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Murray Pearlman</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 18:47:28 -0600</pubDate>
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