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		<title>Ronnie Bell</title>
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			<title>CL.VIII Auditor &amp; /S</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/ronnie-bell.html#comment-5378</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Well written, Ronnie. I used to have a sign up in my old office that said: "What are You pretending to not-Know?" At the Monterey Center we have a special handling to cleanup the mess the Cof$ has created. We offer ex-Scio's an initial handling for FREE to get people over the hump. Reports from people such as yourself are going a long way to document the truth, along the lines of: You shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you FREE!" Keep the information flowing!.... - Ron Fitch]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ron Fitch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jun 2013 18:14:05 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>RE: Ronnie Bell</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/ronnie-bell.html#comment-5114</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Excellent writeup. There are just so many outpoints. I am amazed that we didn't see them for so long.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 06:53:32 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Disseminator at Large</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/ronnie-bell.html#comment-5051</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi Ronnie, This is a terrific write-up, and a PRIME example of why management in the church does not want the congregation going on the internet. Very well done, and Thank You. Shreff]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Mark Shreffler</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 10:47:12 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>I felt the SAME!</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/ronnie-bell.html#comment-4887</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your posting! I did gone through the same emotions and vision as you wrote here! For a long time I couldn't understand why I had to fight out-Tech and get only supression from thouse Execs who are supposed to protect me. Even as a pc I got bad, squirell services: indicated F/N when threre were none (when I held cans) and were OFF e-meter. Or audtior, after I gave him overt that did not seem BIG enough for him, asks: "But don't you have something bigger?" No one after all my KRs and calls cared to handle it! And that is just recent stuff. I was stopped from being auditor by someone who IS now encharge of Ideal Org! As a side comment: I myself hate squirells and all OUT-Tech and will remain so. Freezone or else is not an option for me, I am Scientologiest, not a squirell. I did not see any hope other than CoS... but can't rise enough money and even when I managed some - got shit in return with carelessness and for a year trying to handle cycle. And my wife having paid for 10 intensives was NOT called for 6 monts for auditing! Only when I wrote KRs they called and wanished again. Thanks to you, and all here, that giving me hope of getting ON-Source, On-Tech future with Scientology.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>aleksey</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 16:52:25 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>RE: Well done, Ronnie !</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/ronnie-bell.html#comment-4806</link>
			<description><![CDATA["What trained auditor (who's not an idiot in hell) does not know that one does NOT NOT NOT re - run a process that ALREADY has EP'd ? Thus you get the statement from LRH that says Auditors are the MOST IMPORTANT people in the world.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Captain Bob</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2012 19:45:18 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>RE: Well done, Ronnie !</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/ronnie-bell.html#comment-4789</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I did the CCRD to full completion, and received my Clear Cert at Flag in 1994. Flag, mind you. The top technical org on the planet. Captain Debbie Cook herself presented me with my Clear Cert at Flag graduation. Fast forward to summer of 2005, and I've routed into ASHO to do my OT Preps. First thing when I go into session, I get an r-factor that I'm not really Clear after all. Well, I disagreed, and told them so. I spent the next week with the D/DofP, studying everything that had ever been published on the state of Clear. I guess they thought that after a week of that, I'd cognite that they were right, and that I wasn't really Clear. Big nope. At the end of the week, they asked me how I felt. I thanked them for the previous week's education, and told them that my reality was that I was Clear, and had always been so. I'll just say that the next six weeks of auditing didn't go too well, except for the sec checks. They did help brighten me up a bit, but the rest was an experience that left me keyed-in beyond belief. Long story short, it took me from mid-2005 until February 2012 to find out the truth of what actually happened to me at ASHO. Seven years. Seven long years of being in complete mystery about what went wrong. Seven years of doubts and introversion about my case level - just to find out that it was a total arbitrary the whole time. Do ya think I'm just a little bit peeved about what I've discovered? If you said, 'yes', you'd be right.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ronnie Bell</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 22:48:01 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Well done, Ronnie !</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/ronnie-bell.html#comment-4787</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Hey Ronnie, well done man !!! Takes guts to come out and say all that like you did. Yea, the tech is "changing" every year it seems. We're "aaallll blind and out tech" and D.M. is catching it all and "saving" us. Sure. To be sure, there were some false clear attests through the years (none had ran NED), but that should have been caught by the local orgs qual, and for sure by AO's and absolutely by Flag. But now DM is putting that false attest idea on almost everyone. And now NED, grades, TR's, objectives, training, etc, should all be re - done, according to him. What trained auditor (who's not an idiot in hell) does not know that one does NOT NOT NOT re - run a process that ALREADY has EP'd ? An int eval in maybe 2035 should read - "The evil jack ass squirrel was leading the cowwed, timmid..." ... and - "shortly upon his capture and imprisonment he was brutally ra-ed and then electrocuted by inmates who had snuck in an e-meter electrical cord and caught up to him trying to take over the prison... he had cleverly forged the warden's signature and fingerprint on certain key documents..." ... "apparently prison inmates considered DM's type even worse than child molesters..."]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 14:14:52 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Ronnie Bell</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/ronnie-bell.html#comment-4782</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I understand and I got it, really. :)]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Captain Bob</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2012 22:28:39 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>RE: RE: RE: RE: Ronnie Bell</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/ronnie-bell.html#comment-4780</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi Cap'n, I suppose it's just a point of personal of integrity with me. I don't feel as though I have the right to send such a personal communication to people I don't even know. I've already sent my Declaration to everyone within my personal circle of friends and family. I have established ARC with those folks, thus tacit permission to communicate personally with them. Perhaps it's just Mama's home training in me. It's just a boundary that I'm uncomfortable crossing. Thanks ~]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ronnie Bell</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2012 12:56:31 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>RE: RE: Ronnie Bell</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/ronnie-bell.html#comment-4779</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Wow, Max, hello! Good to hear from another old timer from the old Westlake LA org. I was on staff there in 1974 for a short while. I was only an expeditor, but I was posted as Course Admin for the Student Hat course room. It was one of the best, most fun jobs I ever had. You sound like I did just a few short weeks ago. I was full of mixed emotions about all that I first read, but so much of it meshed perfectly with my personal observations of the scene, that I couldn't dismiss it. I had to continue looking at all of the reports and testimonials in order to fully inform myself of the facts. The most powerful adjustment to my personal reality, was that there were so many upstat, well-respected, and highly placed former Sea Org members (and other staff) making these reports. To find that thousands of good, honest people had been run out of their own church for daring to push back against clear violations of the tech, and basic human ethics, completely floored me. I had no idea that this hidden scene even existed. Naturally, I've chosen to stand with those individuals who remain loyal to LRH and the Standard Tech of Scientology. What is mind-blowing, is that they're mostly all on the outside of the corporate church. So be it. I choose my religion over a fallen, and degraded corporate group. On another note, do you know anything about Larry Gorman's status? He was my HAS course sup in 1973. I've always wondered what became of him.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ronnie Bell</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2012 12:51:11 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>RE: RE: RE: Ronnie Bell</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/ronnie-bell.html#comment-4772</link>
			<description><![CDATA["I originally emailed it out to my own list, but mine is very small, so the impact on that line will probably be negligible" Remember the datum number of times over = certainty. Who says you can't send another, and another email, letter? Who says you can't send it via a letter with no return address - mystery. "That's one of the reasons I asked Steve and Marty to publish it on their sites. I hoped that others would copy it, then pass it on to people far outside my zone of influence." Yes. And who says you can't resend that email, or copy it yourself and send it off to every person you know? Outflow=inflow, and sometimes it comes from what not you think. Most people think of that datum from a business point of view. But we are talking here, your write-up from a different point of view, which is that of helping people to look and question. You have no personal money gain. Nor does anybody here.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>CaptainBob</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 21:06:17 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>RE: Ronnie Bell</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/ronnie-bell.html#comment-4771</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi Ronnie, I was L.A. Org staff 1973-76, course sup mostly. We had our own reign of terror back then led by Bill Franks. I saw Debbie Cook's interview the other day and that led me to find Marty's Blog and then to you. I've since been on other related sites. You probably know how I feel: my stable datums have been blown away and I want to cry. I don't want to believe the only hope for mankind is in the state it's in. But I'm coming around to confronting it. Your post is helping me to do that. So, for that I thank you. Best, Max I]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Max Bleiweiss</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 20:40:30 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>RE: RE: Ronnie Bell</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/ronnie-bell.html#comment-4769</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi Cindy! I sure do hope that people share my post with others. Especially their Kool-Aid drinking friends and family. Such write-ups do little good being circulated amongst the choir. I really need people's help with that, too. I originally emailed it out to my own list, but mine is very small, so the impact on that line will probably be negligible. That's one of the reasons I asked Steve and Marty to publish it on their sites. I hoped that others would copy it, then pass it on to people far outside my zone of influence. Thank you so much for the kind words of acknowledgement!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ronnie Bell</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 11:20:20 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>RE: Good Job</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/ronnie-bell.html#comment-4768</link>
			<description><![CDATA[O'Doul's sounds like a plan, my friend. If you're around the Dallas area, we're on!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ronnie Bell</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 11:09:34 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>RE: Ronnie Bell</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/ronnie-bell.html#comment-4763</link>
			<description><![CDATA[This is a great write-up. Great [censored]oto, too! Lots of people are going to be sharing this post. Thanks, Ronnie.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Cindy Pinsonnault</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 01:06:39 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Good Job</title>
			<link>https://mail.scientology-cult.com/ronnie-bell.html#comment-4761</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Good job, Ronnie. Maybe we can knock a few O'Doul's back some time.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>plainoldthetan</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2012 21:46:10 -0600</pubDate>
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